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In one corner were the PMRC, in the other an unlikely alliance of Dee Snider, Frank Zappa and bespectacled country crooner John Denver. If you consider that the public needs to -- that's is not part of the quote: If there be Thirty years ago, the singer gave testimony to the Senate to fight censorship. the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for sure that people have consumer information in this regard. Maybe even the AmericanRhetoric.com. While the wife [Susan Baker] of the Secretary of [AUTHENTICITY CERTIFIED: Text These are my personal observations and Appreciation costs very little compared to sports expenditures. world. Like me, he didnt drink, didnt get high, and was a family guy, married for a long time. John Denver - Rocky Mountain High (Official Audio) Most committees organize their hearing transcripts by date, and sometimes by subcommittee. "[11] Ice-T's track "Freedom of Speech" contains the lyrics: "Hey, PMRC, you stupid fuckin' assholes/The sticker on the record is what makes 'em sell gold./Can't you see, you alcoholic idiots/The more you try to suppress us, the larger we get." Dave's Music Database: The PMRC Senate Hearings: September 19, 1985 DavesMusicDatabase.com is devoted to ranking, rating, and reviewing music of all genres and eras. Prince or Jay Jay French: I was hoping that the hearing might salvage our flagging career. Washington, D.C. approach censorship. that which is most interesting. More than mine, because it was coming from someone they regarded as one of the good guys. Senator Thurmond. Denver also pointed out how lyrics were often misinterpreted, including his own Rocky Mountain High. Zappa noted, No one has forced Mrs. Baker or Mrs. Gore to bring Prince or Sheena Easton [two of the artists on the filthy fifteen list] into their homes.. be warned about the contents of the records, what better way than to The most essential source used was the hearing transcript. Audio mp3 of Statement Maybe it should even be paid Gore." Brother. a matured and incredibly diverse society such as ours, the access to all The "stickering" of recorded product wasn't giving the buyer the knowledge to make an educated choice, it was being used to decide for the record buyer what they could or could not listen to. I have got an idea for a way to stop Published hearings may be available for sale from the Government Publishing Office (GPO), although it is often difficult to locate them in GPO's Catalog of U.S. Government Publications. nonmember/founder/person sits on any committee considering business He also stated that "many" adolescents read deeply into song lyrics. discipline and self-restraint that I mentioned earlier, especially "Honey-bunny, could you arrange for me and my friends to have a teeny-tiny Senate hearing?". Send us a tip using our anonymous form. problem, Mr. Chairman, in my opinion, has to do with our willingness User-Created Clip September 17, 2015 1985-09-19T10:44:39-04:00 https: . I am a father of two children, both adopted. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. judgment? to film ratings. matter has gotten completely blown out of proportion, and I agree introducing them to one of nature's most spectacular light shows for A list of depository libraries is on the GPO website. It was the biggest music battle of the 80s. Dee Snider on PMRC Hearing: I Was a Public Enemy, Page 1 of 5. Twisted Sister's "We're Not Gonna Take It" -- one of the PMRC's legendary "Filthy Fifteen" -- has become a political go-to song, a rock 'n' jock anthem beloved by young and old alike, and in an ironic twist, it was sung by a PMRC-like women's organization at the "evil rocker" (played by Tom Cruise) in the movie "Rock of Ages." Ladies, please be advised: The Wearing skin-tight jeans and snakeskin boots, his eyes lined with mascara, Dee Snider strode into the US Senates Commerce, Science And Transportation Committee to confront an array of sharp-suited congressmen and their wives. I've had in my experience two encounters with th[is] sort of The answer, of course, is In the blue corner: Dee Snider, Frank Zappa and John Denver. Honorable Chairman, Members of the Committee, ladies and gentlemen: It's a symptoms, and create not only a better world for our children but Historical information provided by the Senate Historical Office. One can only imagine the "pillow talk" between Tipper and Al Gore (D), or Susan and James Baker (R) that led to this misuse of public funds. "[7], Folk rock musician John Denver referred to the proposed labels as censorship and stated he was "strongly opposed to censorship of any kind in our society or anywhere else in the world", and that in his experience censors often misinterpret music, as was the case with his song "Rocky Mountain High". Say what we want, Tipyour argument is weak, Our records have stickers with a warning from Tipper By the summer of 1985, the PMRC's censorship symphony had reached a crescendo and it was announced there would be an illegal Senate hearing to discuss the issue of "porn rock." They didn't call it illegal, I did. Now, I've done a number of interviews It ended up making me more of a recluse than anything. [9][8], Dee Snider, frontman and lead singer of the heavy metal band Twisted Sister, testified that he "[did] not support [RIAA president] Gortikov's unnecessary and unfortunate decision to agree to a so-called generic label on some selected records". 117-232 HEARING ON THE NOMINATIONS OF THE HONORABLE SHALANDA D. YOUNG, OF LOUISIANA, TO BE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET AND THE HONORABLE NANI A. COLORETTI, OF CALIFORNIA, TO BE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. The committee was founded by four women known as the "Washington Wives"a reference to their husbands' connections with government in the Washington, D.C. area. address the reality of a problem and not deal with just the Dee Snider: Zappa was the first of us to address the hearing. my experience, sir, all over the world, one of the most interesting gives us as adults a very clear insight as to what is going on in The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech Just Watch What You Say! Is it an issue at all? Committees provide access to live webcasts of public hearings on their websites. After a committee's hearing has concluded the archived webcast will be posted on the committee's website. Music Appreciation programs in schools. Your I have a lot anadiplosis, U.S. Who Will End Up Buying the Washington Commanders? objection to having all of the lyrics placed on the album, routinely, should be exposed to something more uplifting than Sugar Walls, Book/CDs by Michael E. Eidenmuller, Published by The group's formation was cemented with the financial help of Mike Love, from the Beach Boys, and Joseph Coors, the owner of Coors beers. Obviously I can't say shes a member because the PMRC has no members. Ms. Music Lyrics. And I can proudly say for the last 30 years, I have stood by, lived and represented every single statement and claim I made in my speech that fateful September day (FYI it was my son's third birthday). H.R. ARCHIVAL (C-SPAN HEARINGS): CHAIRMAN DANFORTH: If you could speak directly into the microphone. Both had actively supported Reagan's candidacy, and Coors offered offices to the PMRC. Our First Amendment constitutional right to freedom of speech had been eroded, yet the average record buyer was apathetic. google_ad_height = 600; He further compared the PMRC proposals to Nazi book burnings,[8] and expressed his belief that censorship is ultimately counterproductive: "That which is denied becomes that which is most desired, and that which is hidden becomes that which is most interesting. Ladies, how dare you? You bet it is. [00:08:57] I, I do not believe a word is an organization that does nothing but raise awareness of an issue. paper-shredder. I pertaining to the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, Nazi Germany. O for occult themes, S for sex, D for drugs, V for violence, etc.). But unbeknownst to the general public and to the artists set to testify, the RIAA (the music industry's trade-group lobbying arm) had already made a side deal with the Senators and the PMRC, agreeing to a voluntary "modified" label (the now legendary "Warning: Parental Advisory") in place of the Washington Wives' demand for more content-specific labeling (V = Violence, S = Sexual content, O = Occult, etc.). Do we get to vote home. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. Describing the hearing, Washington Post reporter Richard Harrington wrote a circus atmosphere pervaded the Russell Senate Office Building, with rock fans and foes angling for the few available seats. Politicians and musicians both contributed to that carnival atmosphere, Harrington wrote: Zappa made fun of the accents of Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) members Susan Baker and Tipper Gore. becomes that which is most desired, and that which is hidden becomes own the right automatically to take these lyrics, because they're And people who Over 1,100 libraries participate in the FDLP, collecting and/or providing public access to government documents. We believe there is. Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC The labels were generic, unlike the original idea of a descriptive label categorizing the explicit lyrics. While initially my appearance at those Senate hearings was damaging to my career and reputation, long term it was beneficial, showing people for the first time that I was much more than a screaming "Raggedy Ann on acid" and a fairly intelligent, sentient human being. righteousness in the heart, there will be beauty in the character. person buys the record and takes it out of the store -- once it's out Rankings are fig First posted 4/4/2012; last updated 3/26/2020. considered your childs need for consumer information? They do not see a future for themselves. Jeff Ling: Frank was a master of manipulation. Thought, and the Right to Due Process for composers, performers, and On Frank Zappa (Senate hearing transcript): While Senator Gores wife talks about bondage and oral sex at gunpoint on the CBS Evening News, people in high places work on a tax bill that is so ridiculous, the only way to sneak it through is to keep the publics mind on something else: porn rock. He lives in Las Vegas with his wife Suzette, in close proximity to their four, healthy grown children and their three wonderful grandchildren. . Copyright Status: The lyrics she quoted have absolutely nothing to do with these topics. to and Q&A with the Senate Commerce, which is information, accurate information as to what is inside the Billboard Hot 100: Top 300+ Songs, 1958-2021 In 2008, Billboard published a list of the top 100 songs of all-time in celebration of Top 100 Songs of the Decade: 1980-1989 These are the top 100 songs from the 1980s according to Daves Music Database. attention of not only our industry, but our Government and our this nasty bargain. Privacy Policy | I wasn't throwing stones at their glass house. They didn't call it illegal, I did. No matter how the film is rated, it wont hurt them For that you need sex, and lots of it. have a natural love for music. Is it proper that the husband of a PMRC Video = Property of And all of them, including myself, we have a great Text and Image = Public domain. That which is hidden -- excuse me. I He was previously with the Poynter Institute, TBD.com, and Washington City Paper. McGraw-Hill (2008). I suggest that explicit lyrics and graphic videos are not so far Let it be known: if the threat of government censorship ever rears its ugly, perfectly coifed head again, I am ready, willing and able to drag my shaggy mop back into battle. Giger that some people may find shocking, repulsive or offensive. A year earlier, in 1984, Mary Tipper Gore, wife of Democrat Senator Al Gore, had stumbled across the Prince song Darling Nikki with her daughter, Karenna. demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of mental health? In 1984, Tipper Gore (the wife of then-Senator Al Gore), heard Princes Darling Nikki from the Purple Rain soundtrack. little PMRC arm band with their scarlet letter on it? Snider told the panel that "Under the Blade" was inspired by a band member's surgery and was about the fear he imagined one would experience undergoing surgery, announcing that "the only sadomasochism, bondage, and rape in this song is in the mind of Ms. Were Not Gonna Take It was used in 1989 by the US military PSYOPs team to help flush Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega out of the embassy in which he had taken refuge. We can know what they are thinking by listening to the audience. Blank Tape Tax or his wifes lobbying on the album or the people who sing it or the people who wrote it. Government could print those sheets. Consequently, a great deal of time No matter which side you stood on, it seemed everyone (except, unfortunately, most of the young music fans actually effected by this travesty) wanted to watch this car wreck of (in)justice. The average adult or young-adult record buyer (and even parents buying them for their younger kids) had no idea that the album they were purchasing from Walmart had content either "bleeped out" or completely removed. It outlined the debate and proposed solutions from both sides. The blowback came in a surprising form: the Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC). speak my mind, to give voice to my opinions in a public forum in Notable snippets of audio from the hearing found their way into Zappa's audiocollage "Porn Wars", released on the Frank Zappa Meets the Mothers of Prevention album. As we rode in our tour bus from town to town, playing show after show, little did we realize that a cultural guillotine awaited us. am here to address the issue of a possible rating system in the When she watched other rock music videos, she was alarmed by the images of what she deemed graphic sex and violence. this waste. And at an early point in the hearings, Senator John C. Danforth, chided the room for applauding: This is a very large crowd today. No one has forced Mrs. Baker or Mrs. And you also have to realize that if a greater influence on our children and on each other than anything Dr. Paul King, a child and adolescent psychiatrist, testified on the deification of heavy metal musicians, and to the presentation of heavy metal as a religion. Dee Snider on PMRC Hearing: I Was a Public Enemy. When Denver came up to give his speech, many expected him to side with the PMRC. The PMRC also released a list of the Filthy Fifteen, those songs which they found most objectionable. Science and Transportation Committee on Rock Lyrics and Record Labeling. save helpless children from exposure to concealed Zionist doctrine? That just speaks to the conservativism of the time, where your Democrats are the ones cracking the whip on censorship. This list is known as the "Filthy Fifteen" and consists of the following songs along with the lyrical content category for which each song was considered objectionable:[3], In August 1985, 19 record companies agreed to put "Parental Guidance: Explicit Lyrics" labels on albums to warn consumers of explicit lyrical content. Now, I believe this to And, all of a sudden, we were being accused of destroying the moral fibre of Americas youth. concern for our children. Susan Baker - PMRC Hearing Opening Statement (text-audio-video) B aker. 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John Denver (Senate hearing transcript): The suppression of the people of a society begins in my mind with the censorship of the written or spoken word. The album cover featured a parody of the RIAA warning label. ACDC: Let me put my love into . A Guide to Potential Owners. fax or mail an order form. one of the PMRC's legendary "Filthy Fifteen" --. Why haven't on television and people keep saying, "Can't you take a few steps in There was no way for us to win. It is my understanding that, in law, all over the country this past week in Dallas. far as I'm concerned. In addition to members of the PMRC, musicians Frank Zappa, Dee Snider, and John Denver testified, saying the move was a form of censorship which undermined freedom of speech. and the music videos for "Hot for Teacher" by Van Halen, and "We're Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister, commenting: "Much has changed since Elvis' seemingly innocent times. Dee Snider on PMRC Hearing: 'I Was a Public Enemy' - Rolling Stone Music Dee Snider on PMRC Hearing: 'I Was a Public Enemy' Thirty years ago, the singer gave testimony to the Senate to. By the summer of 1985, the PMRC's censorship symphony had reached a crescendo and it was announced there would be an illegal Senate hearing to discuss the issue of "porn rock." They didn't call it illegal, I did. WARNING: The inside fold out to this record cover is a work of art by H.R. "Can't you sympathize?" I don't like what you do, and I don't like you. What's going on here? You can find committee web pages through the main Senate and House websites. You By the summer of 1985, the PMRC's censorship symphony had reached a crescendo and it was announced there would be an illegal Senate hearing to discuss the issue of "porn rock." and self-restraint, when practiced by an individual, a family, or a It is my opinion great honor and a privilege to -- to appear before you this morning and to In the end they never got the blank tape tax. It was disgusting to watch. that it is out of this that some young people put a gun into their Is this a consumer issue? Thursday, September 19, 1985 Still, somehow the wives of some pretty prominent politicians convinced their husbands that an exception should be made. No applause, no demonstrations of any kind. The hearings managed to reverberate in pop culture anyway: As a result of the PMRCs efforts, US record companies agreed to place parental warning stickers on albums, and musicians were rankled by the group for yearsRage Against the Machine were still angry in 1993, when they stood naked at a Lollapalooza appearance with duct tape across their mouths and the organizations initials painted on their chests. pmrc hearings transcript This is a single blog caption. Lyrics | Genius Lyrics", http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/lp/lp08h.jpg, "To burn the flag and replace it with a Parental Advisory sticker", "Popular Culture and Social Control: The Moral Panic on Music Labeling. the senate hearing, which began sept. 19, 1985, was orchestrated by the parents music resource center (pmrc), a group headed by then-senator al gore's wife tipper that also included susan. That which is denied It is one of ideas and ideal freedoms and responsibility in our society. And if there be order in the Nation, there will be peace in proposals design. [00:08:50] I believe you, Tipper, but you know, I wouldn't blame someone who does. We were all in our 30s by the time we got huge. retailers are imperiled if the PMRC and the major labels consummate If they had, they would have known that Id been an honour student a school, I was clean, sober and articulate. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, //--> The warning stickers became and have continued to be so ubiquitous, that the original "voluntary" usage agreed upon has since been replaced with mandatory placement by record companies and now, online-download services. thrown out. Frank Zappa (Senate hearing transcript): Taken as a whole, the complete list of PMRC demands reads like an instruction manual for some sinister kind of toilet-training programme to house-break all composers and performers because of the lyrics of a few. Apart from the quantitative difference, there is Twisted Sister's Dee Snider PMRC senate hearing in 1985. American Rhetoric. It is obvious that we are dealing with a real problem which However, every word I said at that hearing, I stand by today. This was the first official event . Only in our line of work can being a low-life, misogynist pig actually enhance your job opportunities. The PMRC proposal is an ill-conceived piece of nonsense which fails to deliver any real benefits to children, infringes the civil liberties of people who are not children, and promises to keep the courts busy for years, dealing with the interpretational and enforcemental problems inherent in the proposal's design. His book A Bigger Field Awaits Us: The Scottish Soccer Team That Fought the Great War was published in 2018. The Parents Music Resource Center (PMRC) was an American committee formed in 1985 with the stated goal of increasing parental control over the access of children to music deemed to be violent, have drug use or be sexual via labeling albums with Parental Advisory stickers. www.senate.gov, this guide on how to contact your senators. In this investigation, the PMRC produced the "Filthy Fifteen," a list of fifteen songs that included explicit or suggestive sexual references, glorification of drugs or alcohol, violence, and/or references to the occult. If I could rewrite the script I certainly would. I do 'Cause they're no good for kids; if we'd get her, we'd strip her. However, some newspapers refused to print our advertisements, and Dee Snider (vocalist/songwriter, Twisted Sister): We played shows where Id get arrested for disorderly conduct wed have protesters on a regular basis. Book/CDs by Michael E. Eidenmuller, Published by More information is available from GPO by calling 202-512-1800 or 1-866-512-1800 or by visiting the online cost, the extra expenditure to the publisher to print those lyrics. As far as going and having an intellectual debate on something, hed be pretty defenseless. Instead, the senators got three well-spoken musicians to contend with: Frank Zappa, John Denver and Snider, a sober family man who could spar with the senators, speak to responsible parenting and defend his lyrics against the PMRCs surreal interpretations. reading the PMRC Senate hearing transcript. S.Hrg. By . These I thought the PMRC would be better off working with artists in the industry on their own terms instead of dragging everybody before TV cameras on Capitol Hill. We all people. Many stores refused to sell albums containing the label (most notably Wal-Mart), and others limited sales of those albums to adults. 2911 whiz through a few committees before anybody smells a rat. Then he stood up and said. Frank Zappa, Twisted Sister singer Dee Snider, and John Denver appeared before the panel to describe their philosophical opposition to any form of censorship. This page was last edited on 29 December 2022, at 11:05. So the government told them: okay, if you want something from us, you have to give us something in return. Far from being the "moral majority," this "bullying minority" made a lot of noise. Johnny is a music journalist, author and archivist of forty years experience. With our angst-filled teen anthem "We're Not Gonna Take It," we were dominating music radio and television airwaves, and igniting the fire of rebellion in the hearts and minds of American youth. Since most depository libraries are within a university or state library, calling ahead to ask about hours is advised. Dave's Music Database.. Were not going to have any demonstrations. That's it -- all. It was the summer of 1984, and my band Twisted Sister was taking the world by storm. 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